I have maple cabinets they were stained but was not aware that veneers were use to apply the stain and the veneers are coming loose can the veneers be re glue or can I remove the veneers and paint them instead. You might ask them though since it can’t hurt. Help please. Is a sharp white floor doable and if so, can you please advise on the process. Apply stain on the sides, top, and bottom of the faux shelf. Can you post a link to a picture or email one to me so I can actually see it? Stain Colors. I wiped on the dye and I can see why you recommended spraying this it can be a little tricky. It’s a little tricky to give you an exact product recommendation since everyone’s perspective on color is a little different. So there are so many ways you can take this. Once you are down to bare wood, there are lots of coloring options available to you. When I stained the third coat it is starting to appear quite “red”. These finishes are what they call “water white” meaning they don’t add the same amber and yellow tones we see from oil-based finishes and traditional lacquers. Thank you. Rockler has a great selection of gel stains that I use frequently. Colour Wall Assistant. Secondly, like others I have noticed, maple is a pretty non absorbent wood, it will not hold the color when I “remove the excess”. One of my top favorite stain colors is Minwax Provincial, I’ve used it a lot! Coming along nicely. When staining soft maple Kitchen doors and drawers from a millworks shop the painter applied a special walnut stain directly to the raw wood. Shown on Maple AND Oak View Product Details . I mixed this color myself since I couldn’t find the color I wanted which is a dark cherry with a hint of walnut. I hope the General Finishes is the answer to my woes. The Wood Whisperer, The Wood Whisperer Guild, TWW, and TWW Guild are trademarks of The Wood Whisperer Inc. All rights reserved. The quartz countertop here, Blanco Maple from Silestone , has a subtle amber-colored aggregate in it that picks up on the glowing wood stain color. Went to Sherwin Williams and picked a stain of Fruitwood for a light finish. What do you recommend? Hi there, We just installed a beautiful new set of stairs in our home. In order to match it up I would need to do a little trial and error testing to see what get us as close as possible. However in between sanding and vacuuming dust we have sample pieces that were cut out to make runs for duct work. UGH !!! I need my bathroom back!!! This might be a good question to throw to the folks in the forum: http://woodtalkonline.com. We are trying to stain a maple bar counter in our restaurant to have a weathered, gray look. We have been told that there are 9 coats of stain/finish on the floor. Rob Johnstone: Staining maple to a dark hue, which is very dense and quite light in color, with an oil based or gel-style product is hard work … and in my opinion, not a good idea. Solid color wood stains provide a rich, opaque color that allows the texture of the wood to show. My suggestion would be to stop using the Minwax stain. Time Preparing the maple for stain is easy, finish sand down to 400 grit going with the grain of the wood as you sand. I have read many blogs about using dyes, shellacs and gel stains. As for gel stains, they work great. I have maple cabinet ,having hard time getting dark cherry stain.can you pls. Well once you have a color on the surface, you can’t really go lighter….unless you remove the color. In terms of universal colors (the color standard that house painters use), it would be brown (burnt umber), orange (raw sienna – is gold actually, but mixed with burnt sienna I can make orange) and red (burnt sienna) and maybe a bit of gray (raw umber). Hey Denny. You can brush it on and it should come in satin and matte sheens. Marc, I just discovered this thread. is that true? And it really might not be the best choice for a countertop. The environmentally-friendly stuff is a little safer and easier to work with, but might not work as well. But it sounds like you are already layering on too much white without letting much natural wood grain to show through. David, MasterCraft ( Menards) maple unfinished doors. If you have a sample piece of maple your local paint store will most likely create some samples of 2-3 colors. then apply polyurethane for the final coat <—– also confuse which polyurethane should I use. I’ve tried rustoleum premium wood care “Kona”. What can I do now, after applying that first coat (used sponge brush and wiped it off) to get rid of this blotchy look? You should be able to get just about any color with a good quality dye. If I used the colonial maple and then for my second coat the praire wheat, on samples of course. Samples of maple stains and maple finishes in 22 different Ohio Certified Stain colors. Hey Kevin. It might help mask the blotch. For example, if you take a highly figured piece of curly maple and stain it black with the appropriate dye(note: alcohol, water based, stains and leather dyes, yes, leather dyes) then evenly sand it out, it will take on the appearance of a zebra. “Blochiness of coarse” Would you kindly write back to me and give advice on how to go about staining my floors. The first two coats were great. Yeah most times when a stain doesn’t take, it comes down to improper preparation or something in the wood itself that doesn’t allow the stain to penetrate. I was also considering spraying versus wipe on with the gel. i want to be able to see the woods natural grain, but also have the wood the color i desire. I work for a premier guitar company and have stained my fair share of maple! If you dropped this project off in my shop, the first thing I’d do is run a bunch of tests in hopes of finding the best combo. Any product claim, statistic, quote or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider or party in question. What should I do to prepare to get the tone I want to achieve? Coffee, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain so yeah i got it to work. thanks for your advice, but up here in the wilderness of Canada, we don’t have General Finishes Gel stains. I always appreciate when someone who is in the wood working business is not too pretentious to admit they unsure of something and to ask for help. They accentuate the wood’s texture, are self-priming, and compared to other types of finishes, they provide a high amount of protection for your surface. In order for a finish like that to work properly, you probably don’t want to apply too many coats. Please help me – these stairs are the focal point in my house and they look terrible. They have a really nice Java color that is a beautiful dark brown. I will definitely give it another go. Alder Cherry Hickory Maple Oak Walnut. Check out our product comparison tool! Would really appreciate it if you can provide some pointers. Also, the stain needs to be thoroughly mixed before application, in order to get the colorants uniformly distributed in the stain. Here’s a picture of the finished product with 2 coats of oil based polyurethane. No matter what you use on your wood, be sure to sand it first and seal it afterward to protect it from any damage. I am using the Polyshades stains with the varathane built in. kindly let me know what perticular conditioner to use as well as the type of stain product to go with. Also, have seen some postings about gel-stains. Im well aware of the density of wood and blochiness it could create. But since you can’t really “remove” color with this product, its sounds to me like the only feasible thing to do is try to tone down the red with brown, as you suggested. In the curls, quilt or figure of the maple there are varying densities in the wood. Let it dry over nite before application. This will allow you to perfect the color with one light coat at a time, while also building up the base for your topcoat. Thank you, Hi Julia. You just might be sealing the surface a bit too much, so you aren’t getting the color change you should be. I do not no for sure about alcohol. Hope this advice helps. Am the new owner of an apartment that has its original maple floors from 1903. You may not even have the option depending on the policies of the installer. Just a hypothesis, I don’t actually know if that’s true. Also, if you have a spray setup, you could always use a dye mixture to get a nice even brown color. Add however much it takes to get the color you want. But from what you describe, it sounds like water-based might be right up your alley. so, i did a carving with maple, and usually when i carve i use a danish oil stain kind of thing for my stuff, but seems the grain is too tight to allow any stain to be absorbed into the maple. Driftwood, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain Wildly contrasting, this hue enhances most color palettes and creates a warm, inviting atmosphere. Staining Maple a Dark Color Here's a variety of suggestions for getting Maple to take a dark, even stain. I wish I had read this before starting my library shelves 5 years ago. This is exactly what Darin was trying to do. Gray. The lowercase names below are the colors used in early versions of Maple, and they are retained for backward compatibility. All that said, if you really want to do the filler route, I would recommend checking out Timbermate Wood Filler. The term soft maple is a bit of a comparative misnomer, as soft maple is harder than many other hardwoods (such as cherry). I would like to strip it, and get it down to the wood. I used Minwax conditioner before I stain but still blotchy. Pearl Grey, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain If the stairs are already finished and you aren’t happy with the color, they will need to be stripped, sanded, and then re-finished. We don’t want people to notice that there are two different woods in use. Gray stained kitchen cabinets are the mediators of kitchen design styles. After the fifth attempt I was able to get most of the clear gloss coat off, however my sanding techniques left scribble-like indentations all over the wood, the stain only enhanced these horrible blotches. But you will want to make sure you use something for the blotch issue. It’s the perfect balance of being a natural wood color mixed with a hint of brown. You also might want to check out the gel stain/pre-seal method I used in this video: Long story short, I’m left with cabinets that look as if someone did a horrible job of trying to distress them, not the look I want. Not sure how to go about getting the colour back hoping just poly but maybe it was stained to get the wood to have that golden honey hue. Flood it on the surface and wipe off the excess for a nice even color. This week’s question comes from Darin. Required fields are marked *. http://www.thewoodwhisperer.co.....chy-woods/, http://www.rockler.com/product.....;sid=AFN86, http://www.thewoodwhisperer.co.....-them-all/, http://www.amazon.com/Old-Mast.....B000I1AP1K, http://www.homedepot.com/p/Bru...../202700081. Hi, I’ve stripped a solid maple desk and am researching the best way to finish it. Woods take stain differently so maple will have a different result than pine, fir, or oak for example. PLEASE HELP!! Will the General Finishes Gel Stain in Java help me achieve my goal as well or have I royally screwed the pooch here? Fast Dry Pigmented Wiping Stains. It looks horrible, uneven in the middle of the door and very dark and the edges are light but still not attractive. What I would recommend though is getting a few scrap pieces of maple and testing out your finishing method first. I don’t want each of these areas to stand out, and I want a more uniform color. Any solid wood product can be sanded down and re-finished. Keep in mind that many commercial finishers use toners and pigmented stains. Visit our furniture store … would you recommend that as an easy fix. English Chestnut 233, Minwax® Wood Finish™ You are definitely doing the right thing though by practicing on scrap. I just installed maple floors in my house and I im having a big concern as to how to go about staining the floors. Hi Susan. Something that dries quickly, doesn’t absorb too deep, and potentially obscures the grain a bit. so here’s my plan EZ Stains Blending System. Manor Oak, Minwax® Water Based WoodSheen® I do not like how it came out. Is it doomed to clash and look stupid? Minwax ® Wood Finish™ is available in 25 wood tone colors and can be used to enhance any bare or stripped wood surface. Dye stain options. which is a rich mahogany. My plan is to spray with an alcohol mixed dye. Maple is known to stain blotchy or patchy. Soft maple is also often referred to as "tiger maple" for the tiger-like stripes in the wood, or curly maple … Did something similar with maple, but used a diluted brown transtint dye in water prior to the shellac. What wood would you suggest that is easy to finish but isn’t grainy like oak? I recommend Charles Neal formula outlined in this article: http://www.thewoodwhisperer.co.....-them-all/. I will post again when I get the result. Three months ago my brother installed new maple pantry doors with glas in my kitchen. It doesn’t matter whether you are flusing a dye or a stain, maple woods need to be pre sealed before applying. Antique Jade, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain Hey Kathy. I just wanted to thank you for all the info. Monitor appearances and characteristics vary. Still working on the details of the new shop. I did do test strips with both popped and not-popped and the difference was dramatic. Staining maple is way easier than many would lead you to believe. With Sherwin-Williams stain colors, you can let the natural wood shine through, match grain colors or cover unsightly blemishes. Does anyone have experience using a dye stain rather than a pigment stain on maple? Didn’t realize maple was a problem until we started staining. Oriental Ginger, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain I decided to go against the online hardwood flooring forum hive mind and give it a shot. Simply give it a light sanding with fine-grit sandpaper, remove sanding dust, and brush on a coat of PolyShades® (see step-by-step instructions provided in this Guide). I am using a dewaxed shelac as a sanding sealer and this imparts a slightly amber tone to the wood and when I apply the col. maple gel stain I get an orange tone wood instead of the brown I would like. It barely soaked into the oak at all, but looked much darker on the maple. His test boards would determine which combination is best for his case. Hi, Embrace the chaos. One thing I used to do quite a bit was make my own ‘toner”, using diluted lacquer and either pigment or dye, and sometimes both. W-200 ROSEWOOD W-200 ROSEWOOD Im trying differnet methods conditioners as well as stains and yet, I stiil cant figure out why it comes out the way it does. I wish that I had read your web site a couple of weeks ago. Pour the oil into a … After we got it home we tried it on one of the shaker style doors. 90% lacquer thinner, 10% lacquer, plus your color. It’s like pulling teeth spending money and time on stain and comming out with a latte color rather than esspresso. Do you know how we can do that? My Mom suggested a conditioner do I just finished applying that the night before last and it helped a lot on one door. American Walnut on Alder. – For the best). Hopefully that helps. Hover each color to see the name of the stain and the wood species. But as you can see, maple definitely has some blotch issues. Still he recommended alcohol; and by the time your finished, you could use a cold one:-D Here’s my review of Polyshades: avoid it. Would pre-sealing the wood, then apply a single coat of maple gel stain, then sealer and 4 coats of poly (sanding between) be appropriate to get that antique look back? Once the color is where you like it, switch to full strength lacquer and you’re good to go. It was stained a cherry color, so we sanded off the stain to the original light colored wood. A local guy around here who does finishing for me (when I’m not too cheap or to busy to do it myself) claims to use either a water or alcohol based stain. My next question, my wife likes what color of the same before you wipe it off, she wants me to put a spray varnish or polyurethane on over when the stain dries. And keep in mind you can add many coats to arrive at the color you desire. I have a cherry color from Mini-Wax that I have put on maple scraps and I like it. You can read about it here: http://www.thewoodwhisperer.co.....-them-all/ Use this material before the stain and then follow SW’s instructions. Well he is right to some extent. The reason I asked about the birch ply is that the grain is way busy in comparison to the soft maple face, but we shall see! Any advice? Here's a variety of suggestions for getting Maple to take a dark, even stain. Red Mahogany 225, Minwax® Wood Finish™ Hi Kathy. Hey Rob. Had I known what a nightmare this was going to be, just beginning woodworking, spending 2000 dollars on tools and wood already for my 10 piece full wall bookcase, I would have spent the extra money on another type of wood. In another words step-by-step instructions to finish a large surface of raw maple flooring. Chestnut. Not only was there extreme blotching, but the uneven hold was nearly universal, pooling also occurred. We are building new maple kitchen cabinets and have applied two coats of Varathane Oil-based Premium wood stain to give them a deep cherry color. Minwax Pickled Oak. Visit Our Design Center! We can even custom match a color to your existing furniture. His floor guys sanded and bleached the maple then did sample consisting of two coats of white stain. I found that when I tried test strips using conventional stain, some spots on my board would soak it up like crazy, and other spots looked almost unstained. Then over top of that we installed beautiful white maple butcherblock countertops. I agree with the sage advice that you gave Darin. The stain did not take well on wood milled with the grain, and on cross cuts the stain soaked into the wood giving a dark black … Jen Woodhouse from The House of Wood explains how to get this look in this tutorial. Once the floor is coated, lightly sand with 180-220 grit paper. However if you’re doing an outdoors project these products are not ideal due to their weakness to UV rays which will result in fading of the colors. Honey Comb, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain I’ve only just discovered your site days ago and I am thankful to see a guy speak intelligently on the subject of woodworking and finishing, not just someone breathing in a microphone while trying to think of what he’s going to talk about. I’d recommend something like a danish oil if you’re new to finishing. Harvest Grain, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain I have a maple front door that I have sanded down to the bare wood. It was after this that I asked my “finish guy”. beautiful natural maple desk his father made for him and sanded it down, poorly might I add to begin to stain it dark walnut (minwax). 1st thing is sandpaper the wood We had our kitchen remodeled about two years ago. To see a list of all colors in this palette, issue the command ColorTools:-GetPalette("HTML").See the ColorTools:-GetPalette help page for more information. The wood is very uneven in color, and I want it to look like natural wood, but with an even color. Cinnamon, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain they are beautiful Maple stained, but we are having issues with the stain flaking off or peeling off.. what is causing this? I hate to say this, but I selected the most even planks, used Mr.Neil’s product, then applied polywhey and the result was disastrous. The birch ply has a very busy grain much like your website background. I find that little bit of lacquer helps lock down the color. I was mistaken on the color my wife actually prefers the red undertone. Minwax didn’t cut it, I took Marcs suggestion of a gel stain and got the colour I wanted. In fact, I have never heard of such a thing. From Sherwin Williams and half the door ( I just did one side) . Helllo there, we just built a house and had our cabinets throughout our house custom build. Either way, I would recommend sealing the surface first with shellac, then adding your coats of toner. Classic Gray. On maple, some people like the natural blonde/white color and want to maintain it. or is that going to be a matter of dealing with it every so often and sanding it down and refinishing it? If I was to now use a polyurethane over the sanded wood wood that match the colours on the rest of the stairs. I am also using a pre-swtain wood condioner. 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